The Problem with Ben Cremer

I first found out about Ben Cremer a few years ago when some mutuals on Facebook started sharing his posts. Then, as now, he was (following in the footsteps of the likes of John Pavlovitz) growing his platform by posting woke “Christian” takes on everything from abortion to BLM. As it turns out, that is a pretty solid method of gaining clout and today he has 12k followers on Facebook and another 22k on Twitter. At this point he’s said so many ridiculous things that I can scarcely keep track, and I would rebut all of them if I had time, but you have to start somewhere. So here is “somewhere.”

Be forewarned, I’m going to be extremely critical of the things that Ben has said on his social media, but that said, I don’t know this man. I only know the version of himself that he puts forward. So the Ben who manages a food pantry to feed the homeless people in his town has my full support, but the Ben who posts stuff on FB and Twitter and I have some problems. Let’s get into them.

Cremer benefits from the fact that his rhetoric slots smoothly into the social imaginary of the age. Nothing being said here is fresh or in any way original. Ben simply regurgitates extremely well-worn talking points that have been prepped by any number of pseudo-socialist ideologies inside and outside the Church. First of all, NO ONE’s Christianity does these things. Show me a Christian who uncritically admires the wealthy and I’ll show you somebody abusing the label (if such people even exist; I have never met one). Ben here is conflating having admiration for wealthy people (no matter for what reason) with having admiration for their achievements (other than simply being rich) and for the virtues that they have cultivated.

But Ben is only using this statement about the rich to discredit what he calls “inherent suspicion” at the kinds of monetary decisions that poor people often make. Let me explain this slowly: you can be aware of the known phenomena of poor people spending their money in ineffective and self-defeating or self-destructive ways without it being an “inherent suspicion.” Cremer is using this specific set of words in order to make a very rational skepticism seem like a prejudice. It is not.

The question being asked without being asked here is whether or not poor people own the consequences of their actions. In other words: do they have agency? Agency is the most basic component for any kind of discussion on morality, and without it, any talk about policy isn’t just confused; it’s, like, literally fake. You can’t advocate for some policy over another if you can’t confirm that people have the ability and therefore the responsibility for choosing good things over bad things. And you can’t acknowledge this without acknowledging that even people who are poor own some responsibility for decisions that they make which keep them poor. And you can’t remove this from poor people without robbing them of their humanity because it is our ability to make meaningful moral choices that is one of the defining qualities which makes us human.

If this seems heartless to you, ask yourself why. Ask yourself why you think it is morally defensible to infantilize (at best) or dehumanize the poor. Ask yourself why so many of the “solutions” that people like Cremer advocate for poverty are expansions of the welfare state, with the attendant centralization of state power, and the simultaneously reduction in the ability of poor people to make meaningful decisions about their lives.

As CS Lewis once said,

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

You see, the problem with Ben Cremer is that he represents a kind of moral reduction of Christianity—Christianity watered down to a kind of vibe, what some have called “ecumenical niceness.” Ecumenical niceness usually fixates on various kinds of “harm” and how they can and should be removed from the world.

Ben talks frequently about “harm” and the “harm” that evangelical Christianity causes. “Harms” such as reassurances that God is with us in our suffering, is in control, and “won’t give us more than we can handle.”

The thread continues…

Now, before I go any further, I want to say that as a Christian and someone who suffered from depression and anxiety for DECADES, it is true that to the extent that I experience depression, anxiety, or fear, I am revealing a lack of faith in God and His plan.

Admitting this is not difficult for me because my chief concern in my faith is not assuring myself that I am a good Christian. In fact, I know I’m not a good Christian because I am innately sinful and every step I take towards the divine is a step away from my nature. But for Ben, the suggestion that his behavior reveals that he’s not a saint and has further to go in his faith is a “hurtful shame” that no one deserves.

We actually have a word for this kind of attitude: narcissism. And the fact that we live in a culture of narcissism is what makes this thing work.

Living in a culture of narcissism also makes ecumenical niceness pretty easy. Very few people today are going to have a problem with you affirming them unconditionally and bending over backwards to assure them that they are “valid.” Ultimately, this leads to the absurd conclusion that the only people who aren’t “valid” are the ones who argue that there needs to be some standard for “validity” and—wwwwwow, I just realized how far I’ve digressed from the original topic—

but do you see how difficult it is to talk about Ben Cremer? It’s not that he’s got a couple of things wrong about Christianity, it’s that his ENTIRE WORLDVIEW is backwards and philosophically incompatible with Christianity; so every time he talks about Christianity, he is projecting it through this other moral system and mutilating it in the process. And talking about Christianity is basically all that Cremer does on his socials. That moral system, Cremer’s actual worldview which forms the lens through which he interprets Christianity has a very long intellectual pedigree and it has been elaborated on at length by Carl Trueman in The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self. But honestly, I need to end this thing. This was supposed to be a quickie.

Update: In the light of Ben’s more recent comments regarding the Olympics Opening Ceremony, I’m updating this blog post with a link to that newer post in which I use Ben’s commentary to discuss his political function and how it relates to Christians. Those interested may find said post here.

16 responses to “The Problem with Ben Cremer”

  1. Thank you. Instinctively I had the same visceral feelings when reading Cremer’s post. There is an air of self-righteousness, a snobbery justified through the lens of wokeness.

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  2. I appreciate this article. He and I went to the same college, but I didn’t know who he is until today (I’m a bit older). So many are afraid to call out the kind of nonsense you’ve mentioned here, and I’m glad you have. God bless you!

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    Robert Lee Taylor, III

    Thank you for the work you do to oppose this “Cremer”. I have a distant cousin who constantly posts on FB comments by Cremer. Apparently, both are insanely liberal. In these comments by Cremer, many of them insultingly judge and pre-judge other Christians for their beliefs. I am sorry to say, but this young man is not serving our Lord with all the comments he makes insulting and putting down other Christians. He actually talks like “he” is God. Insulting and disgusting.

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  4. I just came across Rev Cremer and followed links to your post. Excellently worded, I can’t find who wrote this assessment and would like to know. We are recovering Methodists. After marriage we actually began attending Amity UMC when it was still at the school. I digress, the Methodist church I grew up in knew what sin was and why we needed a savior…then social issues became the meat and potatoes, not the Bible. Such a sad situation. Thanks for the article.

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  5. I had a discussion with Mr. Cremer and the arrogance was stifling. He actually said these words and never once answered my questions with scripture. CREMER: “I do get messages from a ton of people, many making the same assumptions as you do, claiming that I must “defend my faith,” as if they, a random stranger on the internet, are some kind of theological authority on all things coming as a hero of orthodoxy to stand up to me (someone with three degrees on scripture, theology and church history, who has spent his entire life as a pastor). It would be funny if it wasn’t so depressingly arrogant”

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    1. The irony is thick. His type are always like this. You don’t get to question them unless you’ve got the right credentials, and you’ve never got the right credentials. It is nothing but an appeal to their own authority.

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      1. I’ve responded to him twice, once on Facebook and on X. He responded with the similar arrogance, repeating what he posted but never answering my questions. He then blocked me so I couldn’t respond. That gives his followers the impression that he shut me down. It’s a common tactic of these guys.

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  6. […] because I’m fairly certain the only thing he worships is his own ego. I’d put Ben Cremer in this category as well as any number of even lesser-known and like-minded personalities. These […]

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  7. I get your point, but a balance should be struck between what is true and truly unhelpful. You impugn social programs for the poor, as if children carry agency independent of their parents. To withhold Medicaid from children with no access to healthcare is anathema to the Chrisian ideal, and to suggest that poor people rank among those completely able to make good choices is naive, and perhaps you have not known very many poor people. Cremer has his shortcomings with elevating humanism over God’s providence, but aren’t you exercising a similar mutilation of God’s love in not recognizing the evils of National Christianity? God does not make His abode in America, a country not in any way founded on real Christianity above the general attention paid to its Anglican roots of a degree of Deism.

    I believe that God doesn’t give us more than we can handle, and chronic anxiety at its core I believe is a sin, but I also leave room for mental anomalies to be medical conditions, and that pointing out to those people their lack of faith is not helpful and wholly destructive. To coddle the sinner in a pool of sentimentality and accommodation is equally unhelpful as a common course of acceptance, but throwing out the baby with the bath water because Creimer’s worldview is jaded is also wrong. His blanket judgments are arrogant but so are yours.

    Josef Novak josef.novak@ymail.com

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  8. “Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.” (Eph 4:29-32)

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    1. Lovely verse. But I’m left wondering what point you think you’re making.

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  9. Ben Cremer is my 2nd cousin. I grew up with his father. When he was going to the Nazarene seminary in Kansas City we were friends on Facebook. His Emergent Church/Woke rhetoric was already apparent at that time. I was in training to become a pastor in the Assemblies of God. When I questioned some of his more secular tirades I got some barbed responses and told what a narrowminded jerk I was. Then, suddenly, we were no longer friends on Facebook.. He carried an ordination through the Nazarene denomination from 2019 thru 2021 when the Nazarenes recended his ordination. He then gravitated to the Cathedral of the Rockies in Boise but left there this year to dedictate himself to nothing but an online presence. If you read his miriad of postings peppered on the internet you recognize one consistant underlying current: He’s been horribly abused by everyone in his life. His parents were mean conservatives who home-schooled him. The Nazarene Church made his life a living hell because he wasn’t married and that forced him to get counseling . Cathedral of the Rockies was too worried about their carpeting. It reads like a cacophany of “poor, pitiful me.” The Nazarene Church is by no means a Fire & Brimstone church. I’ve been a member of 2 Nazarene churches myself. But they would not have appreciated Ben’s liberal take on things like abortion and homosexuality. He raved about how great it was to be a pastor for them. When he carried their papers. When they kicked him out, then they were horrible people. He was all glowing and rosy about CotR. Until he either quit or they told him to leave. And that church is as liberal as they come. But they are bad too. What I notice about relating his life experiences through his prominent and always-abuse-laden bleatings about how horrible life in the church has been for him, there is one underlying theme. Nobody gets just how awesome he is. He runs with a Deconstructionist crowd that raves about how refreshing and edgy he is when he is simply reposting slightly tweeked crap that every other person of his ilk posts in one form or another. His prose isn’t pithy and it isn’t original. It’s the same old “Orthodox Church Bad, Secular Humanism Good” pablum wrapped up in some lame, effete Christianeze. He’s just a slightly more smug and narcissistic Russell Moore.

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    1. Hello Eddie, thanks for your comment. All of that is fascinating. It’s so interesting that Ben’s personal life, when not presented in the curated form on social media, reads like every other aggrieved and attention-seeking “evolved” Christian. I don’t know who Russell Moore is, but Ben always reminded me of John Pavlovitz.

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  10. Friends of mine from a prior evangelical church on the left coast have started posting articles by Ben on FB. His presentation is pretty slick and compelling, but gave me that itch that is hard to scratch. Doing some more research on HIS historical research showed a pattern of picking data that on the surface supported his assertions, but digging deeper, the assertion of support was anything but. Ben, like many others, uses his faith as a thin veneer over their political desires.Having read Truman’s book you mentioned (and authors such as Thaddeus Williams), I found your assessment “spot on.” Thanks for writing this (and your essay on the Olympics). I appreciated your candor.I also wanted to thank his 2nd cousin for a peek at the man “behind the curtain.” When Ben says a “lifetime of Christian Service,” it offers a picture of someone like John Lennox or maybe Glenn Sunshine. Ben chose these words wisely as it implies a life of long, long service to the faith, but it is anything but.Odd that in his musings, he leaves out that he got the boot FROM Christian service. Oh the tangles webs we weave…Again, thanks to all. I needed to see this and appreciate all the effort people have gone through to expose the lie.

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  11. The lack of self-awareness! I couldn’t find any Christian virtue in this post or any of the comments. The irony of the self righteous tearing into a brother for being self righteous. Wow!!

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    1. Self-righteousness =/= criticism you absolute numpty

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